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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 5, 2007 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How good is Bob? JOTS cont'd...

WT & Light Into Ashes:

i think we covered this pretty well....and WT, i know precious little about recording methods, stereo separation, michrophone setups and the rest...

BTW, there must be some more detail on the whole "throw out bob and pig scenario" in the jerry biography perhaps??...however, having played in some bands with people of varying skill levels it is not an unusual occurence at all, quite expexted really -- but in the end, the PERSONAL BOND reigns supreme in a creative endeavor such as the grateful dead, and it is quickly apparent to any more than the casual listener that bob was key to their sound, success and longevity.

bobby got pretty cheesey at times, but his good contributions outweighed these mis-steps of taste, by far....IMHO

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Oct 5, 2007 9:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How good is Bob? JOTS cont'd...


From my experiences in bands, it's a wonder any one has ever stayed together past five years.

I like Bob, I value Bob and appreciated the ways in which his playing evolved over the years. There are Bobby songs I don't like ("Looks Like Rain," ugh, and I never liked "Good Lovin'" or "Dancin'" either, not to mention the Picasso Victim stuff) but the WRS and Playin's more than make up. Also love Big Rivers, El Pasos, and always been a fan of Black Throated Wind.

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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 7, 2007 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: More GOOD LOVIN Jams 1970-71

i agree...BUT

while the post hiatus Good Lovin;s I TOO find ....not so good....DON'T IGNORE the pigpen lead affairs of 70 and 71...some nights, good lovin was practically the centerpiece jam...stretching out to nearly 20 minutes!!...the one i put up from 7-2-1970 above is one of my favorite dead jams...

check this, from 12-10-71....and check bobby, right channel...comes nice and tasty into the jam at 2:30 and really takes off, even gets a little solo space from the band...i wish i had linked this one yesterday...KEITH forces this one into PLAYIN' IN THE BAND circa 1972 territory at about 4:00...this is just a great jam, A VERY HOT early keith show...he took them quickly in a more expansive and jazzy direction and bobby sounds perfectly instep...REALLY NICE JAM:

gd71-12-10.sbd.yerys.1311.sbeok.shnf d2t01

tell me you didnt like that one hombre??? good lovin aint so bad now is it....

please everyone, link hot good lovin from these key years....

This post was modified by He Live's on 2007-10-06 03:25:16

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2007-10-07 15:53:00

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 6, 2007 3:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More GOOD LOVIN Jams 1970-71

April '71 was a key month for Good Lovin' - most of them aren't here anymore - but here's a long one:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-04-13.sbd.unknown.32015.sbeok.flacf

Couple nice versions in March '71 too, including this one:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-03-14.sbd.cole.6115.sbeok.shnf

And here's a great example of a Europe '72 Good Lovin':

http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-04-29.aud.vernon.5250.sbeok.shnf

This early '72 show also has a notable Good Lovin' with an early Mind Left Body jam:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-03-05.sbd.miller.20739.sbeok.shnf

And this one I love just because it's the only Good Lovin>China>Rider>Good Lovin', which is just about perfect!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-01-02.sbd.eD.8709.sbeok.shnf

The Dead started doing the long "rap" versions of Good Lovin' at the end of 1970, in shows such as these:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-11-29.aud.hanno.7592.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-12-12.sbd.clugston.5985.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-12-26.sbd.miller.22369.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-12-28.aud.fink.17706.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-12-31.sbd-fm.7283.sbeok.shnf

And for Dancing in the Streets, these are some of the key versions of 1970:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-04-12.sbd.kaplan.3820.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-04-15.sbd.kaplan.14354.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-05-06.sbd.gans.94.sbefail.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-18.bootleg.evans.100.sbeok.shnf

Well, that's enough for now.....

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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 6, 2007 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More GOOD LOVIN Jams 1970-71

thanks man, a very comprehensive reply i must say!

i am hip to some of those like the catholic youth center show and the gig with the GL>china cat>GL....both just great....but you cited a bunch of shows i haven't checked....and i will.

i have thought of trying to make a mix of the dead's early r&b/motown jams....my idea is to make a continuous hour long mix, meshing together different good lovin's, dancin's and maybe some hard to handle and lovelight thrown in....

i especially like the jams where our man bobby goes into the "tighten' up" chords...it opens up the jam really nice.

CHEERS!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 6, 2007 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More GOOD LOVIN Jams 1970-71

Well, this thread keeps giving and giving...narry a troublemaking diversion. Good job all!

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Poster: blacklakelight Date: Oct 6, 2007 7:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More GOOD LOVIN Jams 1970-71


Holy freakin' nuck-fluck! Some listening to do! Thanks very much both of you, it'll be a couple days before I can listen to all of these but I will, and I'll let you know me thoughts.

Have a great weekends.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 6, 2007 6:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More GOOD LOVIN Jams 1970-71

Couple more...

Very well jammed, high-energy, how could you guys miss this one?

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-02-28.sbd.cotsman.9377.sbeok.shnf


Bonus 1969 - Jer vocals

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-08-29.sbd.cotsman.8996.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 8, 2007 8:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More GOOD LOVIN Jams 1970-71

noted mr hucker...on the todo list